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	<title>Comments on: My Wishes for an Email Application</title>
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		<title>By: Leif Halvard Silli</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-2207</link>
		<dc:creator>Leif Halvard Silli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What you forget – or do not mention – is writing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use Thunderbird, because it is the best e-mail application for writing e-mail with - in my view.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you forget – or do not mention – is writing.</p>

<p>I use Thunderbird, because it is the best e-mail application for writing e-mail with &#8211; in my view.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: solinym</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-2151</link>
		<dc:creator>solinym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not a mac user, but a Unix/Linux user, and I use Thunderbird at work and mutt at home.  If I were convinced that mutt would work as well over IMAP I&#039;d do that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mutt is infinitely configurable, much like EMACS.  And while I&#039;m sure being a text-mode interface would not match the Mac GUI well (Apple does user interfaces wonderfully), it is very responsive, and if you &quot;do&quot; email a lot during the day I&#039;m sure those fractions of a second add up.  Check it out, there&#039;s tons of info on the web about it...
You can use fetchmail to download your IMAP email, process it with procmail, deliver it to a Maildir folder, and then use mutt to read it and respond.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a mac user, but a Unix/Linux user, and I use Thunderbird at work and mutt at home.  If I were convinced that mutt would work as well over IMAP I&#039;d do that.</p>

<p>Mutt is infinitely configurable, much like EMACS.  And while I&#039;m sure being a text-mode interface would not match the Mac GUI well (Apple does user interfaces wonderfully), it is very responsive, and if you &#034;do&#034; email a lot during the day I&#039;m sure those fractions of a second add up.  Check it out, there&#039;s tons of info on the web about it&#8230;
You can use fetchmail to download your IMAP email, process it with procmail, deliver it to a Maildir folder, and then use mutt to read it and respond.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hi.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i was complaining on some apple forum a while back about how badly threading sucks. the tech that works there told me they actually do so-called &#039;real threading&#039; since panther or something, based on the References header.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;he also told me that this problem, like many problems, comes from users behaving badly. instead of initiating new messages (which References: ), many people  compose e-mails by replying to old messages from the desired recipient, and manually clearing out all of the fields.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the result is a totally unrelated message showing up as part of the same thread.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i don&#039;t see an obvious resolution for this, except maybe imposing the restriction that threads must have the same subject or &#039;Re: &#039; + the same subject as the original subject.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just some thoughts. if anyone could write a mail application to slaughter mail.app, it would be macromates. but i hope that you write remote editing for textmate first :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-N&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.</p>

<p>i was complaining on some apple forum a while back about how badly threading sucks. the tech that works there told me they actually do so-called &#039;real threading&#039; since panther or something, based on the References header.</p>

<p>he also told me that this problem, like many problems, comes from users behaving badly. instead of initiating new messages (which References: ), many people  compose e-mails by replying to old messages from the desired recipient, and manually clearing out all of the fields.</p>

<p>the result is a totally unrelated message showing up as part of the same thread.</p>

<p>i don&#039;t see an obvious resolution for this, except maybe imposing the restriction that threads must have the same subject or &#039;Re: &#039; + the same subject as the original subject.</p>

<p>just some thoughts. if anyone could write a mail application to slaughter mail.app, it would be macromates. but i hope that you write remote editing for textmate first :-)</p>

<p>-N</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I too am a longtime Mulberry user. I still use it as I didn’t understand the need to jump ship just cause the company filed for bankruptcy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mulberry&#039;s back and now available for free, as you probably know by now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I too am a longtime Mulberry user. I still use it as I didn’t understand the need to jump ship just cause the company filed for bankruptcy.</i></p>

<p>Mulberry&#039;s back and now available for free, as you probably know by now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Chris re: automatic mail checking and SMTP servers (Comment 1059)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can turn off auto checking for each account you have configured. It&#039;s in the Advanced tab under Accounts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can also have different SMTP servers. But, I wonder if I understand your problem correctly, because with the many varied email accounts I&#039;ve used, the SMTP server for that account worked regardless of where I was connected from: home, work, Starbucks, library, airport terminal, Ukraine, Rep. of Georgia, Russia, Germany, etc. It&#039;s the rare occasion that I need to worry about SMTP servers and that&#039;s only when the connection is down.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris re: automatic mail checking and SMTP servers (Comment 1059)</p>

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<li><p>You can turn off auto checking for each account you have configured. It&#039;s in the Advanced tab under Accounts.</p></li>
<li><p>You can also have different SMTP servers. But, I wonder if I understand your problem correctly, because with the many varied email accounts I&#039;ve used, the SMTP server for that account worked regardless of where I was connected from: home, work, Starbucks, library, airport terminal, Ukraine, Rep. of Georgia, Russia, Germany, etc. It&#039;s the rare occasion that I need to worry about SMTP servers and that&#039;s only when the connection is down.</p></li>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another feature I&#039;d love to see is one I got used to in Eudora, but can&#039;t find in Mail.app:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Creating a folder on-the-fly, either while executing a Move To, Copy To or while creating a rule which uses same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another feature I&#039;d love to see is one I got used to in Eudora, but can&#039;t find in Mail.app:</p>

<p>Creating a folder on-the-fly, either while executing a Move To, Copy To or while creating a rule which uses same.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: voline</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>voline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I want an email app to store the mail in an open, well-documented format, preferably MailDir or mbox. I would also like smooth integration with GnuPG encryption.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want an email app to store the mail in an open, well-documented format, preferably MailDir or mbox. I would also like smooth integration with GnuPG encryption.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not so much individual needs, but from a large scale IT operations perspective, one feature is sorely needed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) users should be able to define a workgroup - a circle of people that share access to a common repository. Attachments should then only move the link to people within the workgroup, allowing shared access to that file. People outside the workgroup would receive the file. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This would significantly reduce bandwidth requirements over the network, and reduce problems with configuration management (revisions) of the data. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eudora does this, to some degree, but is a difficult sell in the corporation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) Connectivity to Exchange - even if this product is a dog, it is prolific in the corporate environment, and integration needs to exist.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so much individual needs, but from a large scale IT operations perspective, one feature is sorely needed.</p>

<p>1) users should be able to define a workgroup &#8211; a circle of people that share access to a common repository. Attachments should then only move the link to people within the workgroup, allowing shared access to that file. People outside the workgroup would receive the file. </p>

<p>This would significantly reduce bandwidth requirements over the network, and reduce problems with configuration management (revisions) of the data. </p>

<p>Eudora does this, to some degree, but is a difficult sell in the corporation.</p>

<p>2) Connectivity to Exchange &#8211; even if this product is a dog, it is prolific in the corporate environment, and integration needs to exist.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;I&gt;Some consider Mulberry the “gold standard” of IMAP clients. I used it for +5 years before switching to Mail a couple months after Cyrusoft filed for bankruptcy last October(?) and never lost even a single message that I’m aware of.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I too am a longtime Mulberry user.  I still use it as I didn&#039;t understand the need to jump ship just cause the company filed for bankruptcy.  The program still works and it meets my needs better than the other IMAP clients I&#039;ve tried in the last year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some consider Mulberry the “gold standard” of IMAP clients. I used it for +5 years before switching to Mail a couple months after Cyrusoft filed for bankruptcy last October(?) and never lost even a single message that I’m aware of.</i></p>

<p>I too am a longtime Mulberry user.  I still use it as I didn&#039;t understand the need to jump ship just cause the company filed for bankruptcy.  The program still works and it meets my needs better than the other IMAP clients I&#039;ve tried in the last year.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sjk</title>
		<link>http://blog.macromates.com/2006/my-wishes-for-an-email-application/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>sjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kiwi was mentioned in a few comments here (including one from Matt Ronge) and more recently on Hawk Wings:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/15/kiwi-new-imap-e-mail-client-in-the-works/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiwi was mentioned in a few comments here (including one from Matt Ronge) and more recently on Hawk Wings:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/15/kiwi-new-imap-e-mail-client-in-the-works/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/06/15/kiwi-new-imap-e-mail-client-in-the-works/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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