Comments on: Changes — FileMerge Replacement http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/ TextMate and OS X Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:53:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Werner http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3699 Werner Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:31:52 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3699 <p>Well so far it looks like a nice app. But it was not enough for me. I settled down for now for DeltaWalker which does the jobs I need. Which is 3 way compare/merge and diffing/merging directories over ssh/sftp drives.</p> <p>Anyway I will reevalute it once 2.0 is out. It looks good but lacks but it has potential!</p> Well so far it looks like a nice app. But it was not enough for me. I settled down for now for DeltaWalker which does the jobs I need. Which is 3 way compare/merge and diffing/merging directories over ssh/sftp drives.

Anyway I will reevalute it once 2.0 is out. It looks good but lacks but it has potential!

]]> By: rob http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3506 rob Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:03:00 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3506 <p>One mac friendly free solution is TextWrangler from the makers of BBEdit. Simple and it just works, check it out, install the app, then command line tools</p> <p>/usr/bin/twdiff</p> <p>http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/</p> One mac friendly free solution is TextWrangler from the makers of BBEdit. Simple and it just works, check it out, install the app, then command line tools

/usr/bin/twdiff

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

]]> By: Carlo http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3421 Carlo Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:42:30 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3421 <p>BBEdit's 'Compare Two Front Documents' functionality is what I would say so many people would find useful.</p> <p>The UI implementation is simple and to the point.</p> <p>I don't want to have to buy BBEdit just for that function.</p> BBEdit's 'Compare Two Front Documents' functionality is what I would say so many people would find useful.

The UI implementation is simple and to the point.

I don't want to have to buy BBEdit just for that function.

]]> By: JLM http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3274 JLM Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:52:07 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3274 <p>For me working easily with textmate is a top selling point, but I probably wont upgrade to leopard till I get a new mac, from a business point of view installing a new operating system is a huge potential risk when you only have one mac. So I for one would be willing to pay more for changes if I could get a version that works on tiger, leopard and even vista/xp.</p> <p>Cheers Justin</p> For me working easily with textmate is a top selling point, but I probably wont upgrade to leopard till I get a new mac, from a business point of view installing a new operating system is a huge potential risk when you only have one mac. So I for one would be willing to pay more for changes if I could get a version that works on tiger, leopard and even vista/xp.

Cheers Justin

]]> By: Ted Wood http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3269 Ted Wood Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:33:46 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3269 <p>Just checked out Changes. Definitely an excellent file comparison app. At first, I couldn't see the benefits, but the simple, live editing blows FileMerge away.</p> Just checked out Changes. Definitely an excellent file comparison app. At first, I couldn't see the benefits, but the simple, live editing blows FileMerge away.

]]> By: semioticmonkey http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3235 semioticmonkey Wed, 07 May 2008 00:31:27 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3235 <p>@Wack tnx for the 'idiotic' nick but I'm a monkey and i'm idiot by nature (so they says).</p> <p>Care to reason about my 'condescending' (?) language?</p> <p>Keep yourself in agreement with yourself. 40$ is a measly number and 17€ (the difference between the master of all text editors and changes) is a pretty penny? I repeat myself. I know the difference but, in my opinion, TM offers so much more in its own niche than changes in its own niche. Making a proportion, Changes costs much more than TM for what it offers, now (and i strongly believe the dev, with time and work, will have a very good application). I pony up what i can for what is worth (if you read better my opinion i'm looking at Araxis. Not the cheaper option out there). If you like to spend your money at coffe house for a glass full of nothing, you can. It is your money, after all, but don't judge who don't drink your nothing and prefers a god old beer as an alien.</p> <p>I'm not telling the dev which is the price to charge. I'm saying MY [<< look!] opinion about the value/price ratio. That'all. I'm not entitled to express my opinion? You don't have clients or likely clients which have the right to express theirs opinion about your price? Are we still in a free market? You offer your good, I decide if your good is good enough for me to spend my money on. If you don't want to be subject to the market, go sell your good on the moon. There is no competition there, until now. Have more respect for the customer, Wack. He puts your food on your table every day of your life.</p> <p>Good luck for your business.</p> @Wack tnx for the 'idiotic' nick but I'm a monkey and i'm idiot by nature (so they says).

Care to reason about my 'condescending' (?) language?

Keep yourself in agreement with yourself. 40$ is a measly number and 17€ (the difference between the master of all text editors and changes) is a pretty penny? I repeat myself. I know the difference but, in my opinion, TM offers so much more in its own niche than changes in its own niche. Making a proportion, Changes costs much more than TM for what it offers, now (and i strongly believe the dev, with time and work, will have a very good application). I pony up what i can for what is worth (if you read better my opinion i'm looking at Araxis. Not the cheaper option out there). If you like to spend your money at coffe house for a glass full of nothing, you can. It is your money, after all, but don't judge who don't drink your nothing and prefers a god old beer as an alien.

I'm not telling the dev which is the price to charge. I'm saying MY [<< look!] opinion about the value/price ratio. That'all. I'm not entitled to express my opinion? You don't have clients or likely clients which have the right to express theirs opinion about your price? Are we still in a free market? You offer your good, I decide if your good is good enough for me to spend my money on. If you don't want to be subject to the market, go sell your good on the moon. There is no competition there, until now. Have more respect for the customer, Wack. He puts your food on your table every day of your life.

Good luck for your business.

]]> By: Wack http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3232 Wack Mon, 05 May 2008 16:55:50 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3232 <p>@idioticmonkey re: "the dev irritable nature"</p> <p>huh?? He was pretty friendly. Especially considering your straight up lie about the price of his app: $40, last time I checked, is not the same as $60 (TextMate price). Not to mention your overall condescending language...</p> <p>I'm so tired of reading "reviews" from people telling developers how much they should charge for their apps... Guess what? It's none of your freaking business... Maybe people who can't "pony up" $40 measly dollars are not his target market in the first place...</p> @idioticmonkey re: "the dev irritable nature"

huh?? He was pretty friendly. Especially considering your straight up lie about the price of his app: $40, last time I checked, is not the same as $60 (TextMate price). Not to mention your overall condescending language…

I'm so tired of reading "reviews" from people telling developers how much they should charge for their apps… Guess what? It's none of your freaking business… Maybe people who can't "pony up" $40 measly dollars are not his target market in the first place…

]]> By: semioticmonkey http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3212 semioticmonkey Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:19:11 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3212 <p>@Ian Baird</p> <p>I know the TM price. I've bought it :) And i have to check the real price not the limited time discounted price of a good to compare to competitors via price/quality ratio.</p> <p>I didn't filed a bug about the invisibile files matter cause....ahem, a diff application is supposed to open them (how i'm supposed to open a bunch of .#file0x.vm in a cvs repo? with TM i can. With Changes not. Enough said). It is, in my opinion, not a bug but a a lack of design vision. I don't file a bug if an Image Editor doesn't see an image file in a directory. I trash it.</p> <p>And...btw i suggested this on Macupdate too first so who is here unfair? http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26706/changes Anyway, stated the dev irritable nature, i believe i'll continue to use term and opendiff or the good old eclipse with its ugly java GUI but its merits and price and a warm community.</p> <p>ps. check the review above. BC is a strong application (or Ultra Compare). All these diff tools shows off how a good application can be made on the Mac too. Copy them, at least.</p> <p>@all others Sorry for the (rant)post.</p> @Ian Baird

I know the TM price. I've bought it :) And i have to check the real price not the limited time discounted price of a good to compare to competitors via price/quality ratio.

I didn't filed a bug about the invisibile files matter cause….ahem, a diff application is supposed to open them (how i'm supposed to open a bunch of .#file0x.vm in a cvs repo? with TM i can. With Changes not. Enough said). It is, in my opinion, not a bug but a a lack of design vision. I don't file a bug if an Image Editor doesn't see an image file in a directory. I trash it.

And…btw i suggested this on Macupdate too first so who is here unfair? http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26706/changes Anyway, stated the dev irritable nature, i believe i'll continue to use term and opendiff or the good old eclipse with its ugly java GUI but its merits and price and a warm community.

ps. check the review above. BC is a strong application (or Ultra Compare). All these diff tools shows off how a good application can be made on the Mac too. Copy them, at least.

@all others Sorry for the (rant)post.

]]> By: Dave Lee http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3198 Dave Lee Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:47:37 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3198 <p>This seems to be a good app for comparing the contents of two files but it does miserably when comparing directories, particularly hierarchies. It doesn't have an "expand all" function so you're clicking and scrolling a lot to see what changed insde the depths of your project. It also draws the file lists far too large with no apparent way to reduce, so you can't see much. Not that you could anyway, because it truncates filenames even when there is lots of space to show them. It tries to be a flashy application without having a lot of substance. Besides the above, I would strongly suggest some finder integration. Having to open changes first and then drag files to it is a pain. Take a look at Beyond Compare's explorer integration for an example. BC also costs very little - I bought a 10-user pack for my development team for $12 per seat. Been using it for years and I've never had to update it because it's so well made and bug free.</p> This seems to be a good app for comparing the contents of two files but it does miserably when comparing directories, particularly hierarchies. It doesn't have an "expand all" function so you're clicking and scrolling a lot to see what changed insde the depths of your project. It also draws the file lists far too large with no apparent way to reduce, so you can't see much. Not that you could anyway, because it truncates filenames even when there is lots of space to show them. It tries to be a flashy application without having a lot of substance. Besides the above, I would strongly suggest some finder integration. Having to open changes first and then drag files to it is a pain. Take a look at Beyond Compare's explorer integration for an example. BC also costs very little – I bought a 10-user pack for my development team for $12 per seat. Been using it for years and I've never had to update it because it's so well made and bug free.

]]> By: Ian Baird http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3172 Ian Baird Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:01:08 +0000 http://blog.macromates.com/2008/changes-%e2%80%94-filemerge-replacement/#comment-3172 <p>@semioticmonkey</p> <p>You're being a bit unfair here. Changes does not cost as much as TextMate and for the month of March - it was discounted by $10, a 25% discount. Changes "continues to ignore invisible files"? I've not seen a single bug report from you regarding this (please correct me if I'm wrong). Please, please, submit bugs to http://changesapp.com/support.php so I can <em>fix</em> them. You also need to become a bit better informed about the prices of the apps that you're talking about.</p> <p>@Bill Ritcher</p> <p>Is Guiffy a native app yet? I looked at it when it was writing Changes, but the Java user-interface completely turned me off. I like the idea of your in-house diff algorithm - perhaps we'll have to compare notes one of these days?</p> <p>@Zac</p> <p>3-way diff is on the way in version 2.0, coming soon.</p> <p>@Hendrik</p> <p>Changes is generally used to compare folders of a few thousand files, such as the linux source trees. It performs quite well in this case, but I'm always working to make it better. Please submit bugs at http://changesapp.com/support.php.</p> @semioticmonkey

You're being a bit unfair here. Changes does not cost as much as TextMate and for the month of March – it was discounted by $10, a 25% discount. Changes "continues to ignore invisible files"? I've not seen a single bug report from you regarding this (please correct me if I'm wrong). Please, please, submit bugs to http://changesapp.com/support.php so I can fix them. You also need to become a bit better informed about the prices of the apps that you're talking about.

@Bill Ritcher

Is Guiffy a native app yet? I looked at it when it was writing Changes, but the Java user-interface completely turned me off. I like the idea of your in-house diff algorithm – perhaps we'll have to compare notes one of these days?

@Zac

3-way diff is on the way in version 2.0, coming soon.

@Hendrik

Changes is generally used to compare folders of a few thousand files, such as the linux source trees. It performs quite well in this case, but I'm always working to make it better. Please submit bugs at http://changesapp.com/support.php.

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